CHAPTER III



                                  REVELATION



	VALUE OF THE SPIRIT OF REVELATION. The man who possesses the spirit of

revelation can realize whether he is a sinner, whether he is prone to evil,

whether he is magnifying his standing before the Lord, or not, better than a

man who has not the Spirit of the Lord in him, can he not? -- Apr. C. R.,

1912, p. 7.



	THE SPIRIT OF INSPIRATION -- OF REVELATION -- BY WHOM ENJOYED. And the

spirit of inspiration, the gift of revelation, does not belong to one man

solely; it is not a gift that pertains to the Presidency of the Church and the

Twelve apostles alone. It is not confined to the presiding authorities of the

Church, it belongs to every individual member of the Church; and it is the

right and privilege of every man, every woman, and every child who has reached

the years of accountability, to enjoy the spirit of revelation, and to be

possessed of the spirit of inspiration in the discharge of their duties as

members of the Church. It is the privilege of every individual member of the

Church to have revelation for his own guidance, for the direction of his life

and conduct; and therefore I aver -- and I believe I may do so without any

reasonable chance for it being gainsaid or opposed -- that there is not

another church in the world, or an organization of religious people, who are

so universally spiritual in their lives, and who are so universally entitled

to the gifts of the Spirit of God as are the members of the Church of Jesus

Christ of Latter-day Saints. You are all entitled to revelation. It is your

privilege to have it revealed to you whether I am a servant of God or a

servant of men; whether I am in the discharge of my duty or not; whether I, as

a presiding officer in the Church, am acting in the discharge of my duty

acceptable to you and the Lord. It is your privilege to have revelation in

regard to this, and to know the truth yourselves. And it is my privilege to

have revelation from God, as an individual, for my own temporal guidance, and

I repeat again that there never was a time on the earth, since the Church was

organized, when the spirituality of the people of God was greater than it is

today. -- Apr. C. R., 1912, p. 5.



	THE SPIRIT OF REVELATION ENJOYED BY ALL. I believe that every individual

in the Church has just as much right to enjoy the spirit of revelation and the

understanding from God which that spirit of revelation gives him, for his own

good, as the bishop has to enable him to preside over his ward. Every man has

the privilege to exercise these gifts and these privileges in the conduct of

his own affairs, in bringing up his children in the way they should go, and in

the management of his farm, his flocks, his herds, and in the management of

his business, if he has business of other kinds to do; it is his right to

enjoy the spirit of revelation and of inspiration to do the right thing, to be

wise and prudent, just and good in everything that he does. I know that this

is a true principle, and I know that I know it, too; and that is the thing

that I would like the Latter-day Saints to know. -- Apr. C. R., 1912, pp. 9,

10.



	NEW REVELATION. So far as I know there is not an ordinance of the Church

now enjoyed or practiced that was not revealed to the Church by the Prophet

Joseph Smith. I know of no new doctrine that has been revealed. Principles

that were revealed to the Prophet Joseph have grown and developed more fully

and clearly to the understanding; but we have received nothing new that I know

of. Yet, if we should receive something new, through the proper channels of

the Church, we should be as ready and willing to receive it as we were, or

would be, to receive the same at the hands of the Prophet Joseph himself. --

Oct. C. R., 1900, p. 47.



	WHEN TO EXPECT NEW REVELATION. We have nothing that is not in common with

the Latter-day Saints. We know nothing, and we will preach nothing to the

people except that which the Lord God has revealed, and we advise and counsel

those who are in authority, and whose duty and business it is to teach and

preach the principles of the gospel to the world and to the Latter-day Saints,

to confine their teachings and their instructions to the word of God that has

been revealed. There is a great deal that has been revealed that has not yet

been lived up to, I assure you. There is a great deal yet remaining to be

learned. There is a great deal that is yet to be taught in the spirit of

instruction, and there is a great deal that has been revealed through the

Prophet Joseph and his associates that the people have not yet received in

their hearts, and have not yet become converted to as they should. When we

obey and are capable of observing the precepts of the gospel and the laws of

God and the requirements of heaven, which have already been revealed, we will

be far better off and nearer the goal of perfection in wisdom, knowledge and

power than we are today.



	When that time comes, then there are other things still greater yet to be

revealed to the people of God. Until we do our duty, however, in that which we

have received, until we are faithful over the things that are now committed

into our hands, until we live our religion as we have it now, as the Lord has

given it to us, to add commandments, to add light and intelligence to us over

that which we have already received, which we have not yet fully obeyed, would

be to add condemnation upon our heads. It is enough for us to live in the

light of present inspiration and present revelation and for each individual

member of the Church to keep the commandments of the Lord and labor in the

Church as the Spirit may give him and her guidance in the performance of duty.

Every soul of us is entitled to inspiration from God to know what is our duty

and how we are to do it. We have not learned it yet, not all of us, but we are

in a fair way to learn. The Lord is still patient; he is long-suffering; he is

full of love and graciousness towards all, and we are doing a little better

all the time. I believe we are a little more faithful in the performance of

our duties than we have been in the past; yet there is great room for

improvement. -- Oct. C. R., 1917, p. 5.



	HOW THE LORD REVEALS HIS PURPOSES CONCERNING THE CHURCH. And I know this,

that God has organized his Church in the earth, and I know that when he

designs or purposes to make any change in the matter of governing or

controlling or presiding over the affairs of his Church, that he will make the

change, and he will make it in such a way that the whole people of the Church,

who are doing right, will understand and accept it. I know that the Lord will

not raise up "Tom, Dick, or Harry," here, there and everywhere, claiming to be

Christ, or "one mighty and strong," claiming to be inspired and called to do

some wonderful thing. The Lord will not deal with men in that way; that while

the organization of the Church exists, while quorums and councils of the

Priesthood are intact in the Church, the Lord will reveal his purposes through

them, and not through "Tom, Dick, or Harry." Put that in your little note

books now, and remember it; it is true. -- Apr. C. R., 1912, p. 10.



	MODERN REVELATION IS NECESSARY. Are we to understand, then, that God does

not, and will not further make known his will to men; that what he has said

suffices? His will to Moses and Isaiah and John is abundant for modern

followers of Christ? The Latter-day Saints take issue with this doctrine, and

pronounce it illogical, inconsistent, and untrue, and bear testimony to all

the world that God lives and that he reveals his will to men who believe in

him and who obey his commandments, as much in our day as at any time in the

history of nations. The canon of scripture is not full. God has never revealed

at any time that he would cease to speak forever to men. If we are permitted

to believe that he has spoken, we must and do believe that he continues to

speak, because he is unchangeable.



	His will to Abraham did not suffice for Moses, neither did his will to

Moses suffice for Isaiah. Why?  Because their different missions required

different instructions; and logically, that is also true of the prophets and

people of today. A progressive world will never discover all truth until its

inhabitants become familiar with all the knowledge of the Perfect One. How

shall men become acquainted with the knowledge of the Father? Only as he

reveals it to them. Now if we are permitted to believe that the Lord revealed

himself to the ancients of whose deeds we read in the Holy Scriptures, it

seems to me that there is no good reason for believing that it is not

necessary that he should reveal himself in this day to others who desire to be

guided by his Spirit and inspiration. Every new truth which grows into living

action in the lives of men is a revelation in itself from God, and without the

revelation of additional truth, men would not progress in this world, but,

left to themselves, would retrograde, being cut off from the light and life of

the great fountain of all intelligence, the Father of all.



	What is revelation but the uncovering of new truths, by him who is the

Fountain of all Truth? To say that there is no need of new revelation, is

equivalent to saying that we have no need of new truths -- a ridiculous

assertion.



	Now, as to the usefulness of modern revelation, that has been referred to

above, in the brief treatment of its need, and it is no sign that revelation

is useless because it is not proper that it should be accepted in the courts.

"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and unto God the things that

are God's." Revelation given for the personal knowledge or guidance of any

person should not be given to the public, either in a civil or religious

capacity; but because it might be (and in such cases is) considered improper

for public use, it is no sign that even such revelation is useless to the

person for whom it is intended. It might be said in passing, however, that the

revelation which the ministers were so troubled about, turned out to be

correct and in conformity with the evidence, and the decision of the court and

jury.



	Our testimony is that God lives, and that he speaks by his power to men

who seek him and believe in him, thus making known his will to them in matters

that pertain, not only to his true Church, but in matters that pertain to each

individual who seeks him. -- Improvement Era, Vol. 5, p. 805.



	THEORY AND DIVINE REVELATION. Our young people are diligent students.

They reach out after truth and knowledge with commendable zeal, and in so

doing they must necessarily adopt for temporary use, many theories of men. As

long, however, as they recognize them as scaffolding useful for research

purposes, there can be no special harm in them. It is when these theories are

settled upon as basic truth that trouble appears, and the searcher then stands

in grave danger of being led hopelessly from the right way. * * *



	The Church holds to the definite authority of divine revelation which

must be the standard; and that, as so-called "Science" has changed from age to

age in its deductions, and as divine revelation is truth, and must abide

forever, views as to the lesser should conform to the positive statements of

the greater, and, further, that in institutions founded by the Church for the

teaching of theology, as well as other branches of education, its instructors

must be in harmony in their teachings with its principles and doctrines. * * *



	There are so many demonstrated, practical, material truths, so many

spiritual certainties, with which the youth of Zion should become familiar,

that it appears a waste of time and means, and detrimental to faith and

religion to enter too extensively into the undemonstrated theories of men on

philosophies relating to the origin of life, or the methods adopted by an

Allwise Creator in peopling the earth with the bodies of men, birds and

beasts. Let us rather turn our abilities to the practical analysis of the

soil, the study of the elements, the productions of the earth, the invention

of useful machinery, the social welfare of the race, and its material

amelioration; and for the rest cultivate an abiding faith in the revealed word

of God and the saving principles of the gospel of Jesus Christ, which give joy

in this world and in the world to come eternal life and salvation.



	Philosophic theories of life have their place and use, but it is not in

the classes of the Church schools, and particularly are they out of place here

or anywhere else, when they seek to supplant the revelations of God. The

ordinary student cannot delve into these subjects deep enough to make them of

any practical use to him, and a smattering of knowledge in this line only

tends to upset his simple faith in the gospel, which is of more value to him

in life than all the learning of the world without it.



	The religion of the Latter-day Saints is not hostile to any truth, nor to

scientific search for truth. "That which is demonstrated, we accept with joy,"

said the First Presidency in their Christmas greeting to the Saints, "but vain

philosophy, human theory and mere speculations of men we do not accept, nor do

we adopt anything contrary to divine revelation or to good common sense, but

everything that tends to right conduct, that harmonizes with sound morality

and increases faith in Deity, finds favor with us, no matter where it may be

found."



	A good motto for young people to adopt, who are determined to delve into

philosophic theories, is to search all things, but be careful to hold on only

to that which is true. The truth persists, but the theories of philosophers

change and are overthrown. What men use today as a scaffolding for scientific

purposes from which to reach out into the unknown for truth, may be torn down

tomorrow, having served its purpose; but faith is an eternal principle through

which the humble believer may secure everlasting solace. It is the only way to

find God. -- Improvement Era, Vol. 14, p. 548



	Science and philosophy through all the ages have undergone change after

change. Scarcely a century has passed but they have introduced new theories of

science and philosophy, that supersede the old traditions and the old faith

and the old doctrines entertained by philosophers and scientists. These things

may undergo continuous changes, but the word of God is always true, is always

right. The principles of the gospel are always true, the principles of faith

in God, repentance from sin, baptism for the remission of sins by authority of

God, and the laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost -- these

principles are always true, and are always absolutely necessary for the

salvation of the children of men, no matter who they are and where they are.

No other name under heaven is given but that of Jesus Christ, by which you can

be saved or exalted in the kingdom of God. Not only has God declared them, not

only has Christ declared these principles, by his voice to his disciples, from

generation to generation, in the old time, but in these latter days, they have

taken up the same testimony and declared these things to the world. They are

true today as they were then, and we must obey these things. -- Improvement

Era, Vol. 14, p. 641.



	REVELATION AND LEGAL EVIDENCE. Recently a man charged with the murder of

another man was examined before a committing magistrate in Salt Lake City. The

father-in-law of the murdered man, during the examination on the part of the

State, related a conversation had between himself and the accused soon after

the commission of the crime. During the conversation, according to newspaper

report, the father-in-law of the murdered man laid the crime at the door of

the accused. In the cross-examination the attorney for the defendant pressed

the witness as to how he knew that the accused was guilty of the crime. The

reply, as given in the press, was, because God had revealed it to him. It does

not appear from the further proceedings in the case that the testimony was

excepted to or withdrawn, or that the magistrate informed the witness that

such evidence was incompetent and could not be received. The statement gave

rise to comment in the press and has been the subject of discourse from the

pulpit. Of course, every person must know that such evidence is not admissible

in a court of law, and if it had been in a trial before a jury it would have

been the duty of the judge to order the testimony stricken out, and in the

charge to the jury, they would have been warned to disregard it altogether. In

view of the probability that there are those who may persist in the

association of such evidence with the religious body of which the witness is a

member, it may be proper to say, without discrediting in the least the

witness' conviction of the revelation he had received, that no member of the

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints should, for one moment, regard

such testimony as admissible in a court of law, and to make the case perfectly

clear it may be further stated that such evidence would not be permissible

even in a Church court, where rules of evidence, though not so technical, are

founded largely upon the same principles that govern the rules of evidence in

a court of law. Any attempt, therefore, to make it appear that such evidence

is in keeping with the tenets of the "Mormon" faith is wholly unjustified. --

Juvenile Instructor, p. 114, Feb. 15, 1902, Vol. 37.



	PROPER CHANNELS FOR REVELATION. It has sometimes been sorrowful to see

respected members of the Church, men who should know better, allow themselves

to become the tools of seductive spirits. Such men seem, for the time at

least, to lose sight of the fact that the Lord has established on earth the

Priesthood in its fulness; and that by direct revelation and commandment from

heaven; that he has instituted an order or government that is beyond the

capacity, and that is superior to the wisdom and learning and understanding of

man, so far, indeed, that it seems impossible for the human mind, unaided by

the Spirit of God, to comprehend the beauties, powers, and character of the

Holy Priesthood. It seems difficult for men to comprehend the workings of the

Priesthood, its legitimate authority, its scope and power; and yet by the

light of the Spirit it is easily comprehended, but not understanding it, men

are easily deceived by seductive spirits that are abroad in the world. They

are led to believe that something is wrong, and the next thing that

transpires, they find themselves believing that they are chosen specially to

set things right. It is very unfortunate for a man to be taken in this snare;

for be it understood by the Latter-day Saints that as long as the servants of

God are living pure lives, are honoring the Priesthood conferred upon them,

and endeavoring to the best of their knowledge to magnify their offices and

callings, to which they have been duly chosen by the voice of the people and

the priesthood, and sanctioned by the approval of God, so long as the Lord has

any communication to make to the children of men, or any instructions to

impart to his Church, he will make such communication through the legally

appointed channel of the priesthood; he will never go outside of it, as long,

at least, as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints exists in its

present form on the earth.



	It is not the business of any individual to rise up as a revelator, as a

prophet, as a seer, as an inspired man, to give revelation for the guidance of

the Church, or to assume to dictate to the presiding authorities of the Church

in any part of the world, much less in the midst of Zion, where the

organizations of the priesthood are about perfect, where everything is

complete, even to the organization of a branch. It is the right of individuals

to be inspired and to receive manifestations of the Holy Spirit for their

personal guidance to strengthen their faith, and to encourage them in works of

righteousness, in being faithful and observing and keeping the commandments

which God has given unto them; it is the privilege of every man and woman to

receive revelation to this end, but not further. The moment an individual

rises up assuming the right to control and to dictate, or to sit in judgment

on his brethren, especially upon those who preside, he should be promptly

checked, or discord, division and confusion will be the result. Every man and

woman in this Church should know better than to yield to such a spirit; the

moment that such a feeling presents itself to them they should rebuke it, as

it is in direct antagonism to the order of the Priesthood, and to the spirit

and genius of this work. We can accept nothing as authoritative but that which

comes directly through the appointed channel, the constituted organizations of

the priesthood, which is the channel that God has appointed through which to

make known his mind and will to the world.



	Through Joseph, then, the Lord revealed himself to the world, and through

him he chose the first elders of the Church -- men who were honest in their

hearts; men who he knew would receive the word, and labor in connection with

Joseph in this great, important undertaking; and all that have been ordained

to the Priesthood, and all that have been appointed to any position whatever

in this Church have received their authority and commission through this

channel, appointed of God, with Joseph at the head. This is the order, and it

could not be otherwise. God will not raise up another prophet and another

people to do the work that we have been appointed to do. He will never ignore

those who have stood firm and true from the commencement, as it were, of this

work, and who are still firm and faithful, inasmuch as they continue faithful

to their trust. There is no question in my mind of their ever proving

themselves unfaithful, as a body, for if any of them were to become unworthy

in his sight, he would remove them out of their place and call others from the

ranks to fill their positions. And thus his priesthood will ever be found to

be composed of the right men for the place, of men whose backs will be fitted

for the burden, men through whom he can work and regulate the affairs of his

Church according to the counsels of his own will. And the moment that

individuals look to any other source, that moment they throw themselves open

to the seductive influences of Satan, and render themselves liable to become

servants of the devil; they lose sight of the true order through which the

blessings of the Priesthood are to be enjoyed; they step outside of the pale

of the kingdom of God, and are on dangerous ground. Whenever you see a man

rise up claiming to have received direct revelation from the Lord to the

Church, independent of the order and channel of the priesthood, you may set

him down as an impostor. God has not called you to go out to the world to be

taught, or to receive revelations through apostates or strangers; but he has

called and ordained you and sent you forth to teach and lead people in the

paths of righteousness and salvation.



	Now, how should it be? I will tell you. In the first place every person

should know that the gospel is true, as this is everyone's privilege who is

baptized and receives the Holy Ghost. A man may be grieved in his feelings

because of some difficulty between himself and President Taylor, or Cannon, or

myself; he may have feelings in his heart which lead him to think that he

could not sustain us in his faith and prayers; but if this should be the case,

what is the course for him to pursue? He should say in his heart, "God has

established his kingdom, and his priesthood is upon the earth; and

notwithstanding my dislike for certain men, I know that the gospel is true,

and that God is with his people; and that if I will do my duty and keep his

commandments, the clouds will roll by, and the mists will disappear, the

Spirit of the Lord will come more fully to my relief, and by and by I will be

able to see -- if I am in error, wherein I erred, and then I will repent of

it, for I know that every wrong thing will yet be made right." I think all men

should feel that way.



	Never is there but one appointed at a time to hold the keys of the

kingdom of God pertaining to the earth. While Christ remained on the earth he

held them; but when he departed, he committed them to Peter, he being the

president or chief of the apostles; and it was his right to direct and to

receive revelation for the Church, and to give counsel to all the brethren.

After Satan and wicked men had prevailed against the Church, crucified the

Savior and killed the apostles, the keys of the kingdom were taken from the

earth. John the Revelator describes it most clearly. And from that time until

Joseph Smith was called by the voice of the Almighty, and ordained to hold

those keys, no man held them upon the earth that we know of. It is true the

Lord did appoint other Twelve upon this continent, and his Church flourished

and prospered in this land for many years, but the Lord declared that Peter,

James and John, and the Twelve that walked with him at Jerusalem, held the

presidency over them. God may reveal himself to different nations, and

establish among them the same gospel and ordinances as he did anciently, if

necessity require, but if these nations should be joined together there would

be one head, and all the rest would be subordinate. So that from the time that

the keys of this Priesthood were taken from the earth until they were received

by Joseph Smith, no man ever possessed that Priesthood, nor the keys thereof,

with authority to build up the Zion of God, and prepare a church or people for

the second coming of Christ, "as a bride is adorned for the bridegroom,"

unless it may have been among the lost tribes, yet of this we have no

knowledge, but if so they would receive those keys necessary to administer in

the ordinances of the gospel for their salvation.



	We know not of their existence or the condition in which they are placed.

The gospel that is given to them is suited to their needs and conditions, and

is for their salvation, not ours; and yet, it will be the same gospel. And God

will not call one from them to give to us the Priesthood, or to give to us the

keys and blessings, or to point out the organizations of the kingdom of God,

because he has established that Priesthood here, and we have it. If he has any

communication to make to us he will send his messengers to us. And in this way

he will deliver his law and give his mind and will to the people. He will do

it through the ordained channels of the priesthood which he acknowledges and

which he has established in the earth. He will go nowhere else to do it,

neither will he send us to them, unless they should be without the Priesthood

and it becomes necessary to take the blessings of the gospel to them, and I

presume that will be the case.



	When Joseph received the keys of the Priesthood, he alone on the earth

held them; that is, he was the first, he stood at the head. It was promised

that he should not lose them nor be removed out of his place, as long as he

was faithful. And when he died, President Young was chosen by the voice of the

people, and sanctioned by the voice of God. He held the Priesthood which was

after the order of the Son of God, with the keys which pertain to the

presidency of that Priesthood upon earth. He received it from the hands of

Joseph, directly from him or by his authority; and he held it until his death.

When he died, that mantle fell upon John Taylor, and while he lives he will

hold that authority, inasmuch as he is faithful. So it was with President

Brigham Young; he held it on condition of his faithfulness. If any man in that

position should become unfaithful, God would remove him out of his place. I

testify in the name of Israel's God that he will not suffer the head of the

Church, whom he has chosen to stand at the head, to transgress his laws and

apostatize; the moment he should take a course that would in time lead to it,

God would take him away. Why? Because to suffer a wicked man to occupy that

position would be to allow, as it were, the fountain to become corrupted,

which is something he will never permit.



	The moment a man says he will not submit to the legally constituted

authority of the Church, whether it be the teachers, the bishopric, the high

council, his quorum, or the First Presidency, and in his heart confirms it and

carries it out, that moment he cuts himself off from the privileges and

blessings of the Priesthood and Church, and severs himself from the people of

God, for he ignores the authority that the Lord has instituted in his Church.

These are the men that generally get crotchets in their heads, that get

inspiration (from beneath), and that are often so desirous to guide the

Church, and to sit in judgment upon the priesthood. The only safe way for us

to do, as individuals, is to live so humbly, so righteously and so faithfully

before God that we may possess his Spirit to that extent that we shall be able

to judge righteously, and discern between truth and error, between right and

wrong; and then we shall know when a decision is rendered against us that in

ninety-nine cases out of a hundred, we are in error, and that the decision is

right; and although we may, at the time, not be fully able to see and feel its

justness, yet will be constrained to say that "inasmuch as there are sixteen

chances against one for me to be wrong, I will gracefully and humbly submit."

The pith of the matter is: the Lord has established his Church, organized his

priesthood, and conferred authority upon certain individuals, councils and

quorums, and it is the duty of the people of God to live so that they shall

know that these are acceptable unto him. If we begin to cut off this one and

that one, and set their authority aside, we may just as well at once set God

aside, and say that he has no right to dictate. -- Journal of Discourses, Vol.

24, pp. 187-194, 1884, Ogden, June 21, 1883.



	THE DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS. I say to my brethren that the book of

Doctrine and Covenants contains some of the most glorious principles ever

revealed to the world, some that have been revealed in greater fulness than

they were ever revealed before to the world; and this, in fulfilment of the

promise of the ancient prophets that in the latter times the Lord would reveal

things to the world that had been kept hidden from the foundation thereof; and

the Lord has revealed them through the Prophet Joseph Smith. -- Oct. C. R.,

1913, p. 9.



	HOW TO READ THE BIBLE. That which characterizes above all else the

inspiration and divinity of the Scriptures is the spirit in which they are

written and the spiritual wealth they convey to those who faithfully and

conscientiously read them. Our attitude, therefore, toward the Scriptures

should be in harmony with the purposes for which they were written. They are

intended to enlarge man's spiritual endowments and to reveal and intensify the

bond of relationship between him and his God. The Bible, as all other books of

Holy Writ, to be appreciated must be studied by those spiritually inclined and

who are in quest of spiritual truths. -- Juvenile Instructor, Vol. 47, p. 204,

April, 1912.



	PERSECUTION FOLLOWS REVELATION. I do not believe there ever was a people

who were guided by revelation, or acknowledged of the Lord as his people, who

were not hated and persecuted by the wicked and the corrupt, and perhaps no

people were ever more persecuted than this people would be if it were in the

power of the enemy today to persecute us as it was in the power of Nero and

the Romans to persecute the Saints in their day. There never was a time when

it was more fixed and determined in the heart of the wicked to fight against

and destroy the kingdom from the earth than now, and their failure will be due

only to the impossibility of the task they have undertaken. And this is an

evidence to everyone that God's Priesthood is here, that many of the Saints

are magnifying their calling and honoring the Priesthood and also the Lord,

both with their lives and with their substance, which are his. -- Deseret

Weekly News, Vol. 24, p. 708, 1875.